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exodus360
exodus360
I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 6 2010, 7:36 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 6 2010, 7:36 PM EST
Im lvl.41 and i haven't maxed all my skills yet, and i diden't sp farm until my lvl now at 41, is it gonna take me a long time to get sp and max out all my skills at the lvl im at? Do you find this valuable?    
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Mellificient
1. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 7 2010, 1:23 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2010, 1:23 PM EST
Short answer you've nerfed your toon. It is poss to pick up the sp you need, the next really good level is 59. If you can get your xp locked down right through the level and do it with eliz enchantment and ONLY hit arcane then you can get 4400 sp by the finish. You will get ~0.005% xp per kill. I would recommend Arcane as there a tons of them grouped and are easy to kill. Do you find this valuable?    
exodus360
exodus360
2. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 7 2010, 4:33 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2010, 4:33 PM EST
alright, where are the arcane at? Do you find this valuable?    

Mellificient
3. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 8 2010, 4:02 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2010, 4:02 AM EST
On the way to the tomb, just before you go through the first pass. Do you find this valuable?    
5fingers
5fingers
4. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 8 2010, 5:55 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2010, 5:57 AM EST
PART I

There are two options now. Do as Mellificient says or the below. This is just another way of looking at things now. Most people never want to start over now. I am just showing what you might look at if you do start over.

I am looking at the time factor. If you get a new toon, you can sp faster as you know what to do. SP farm at level 17 to max ALL skills. These include the crafting skills too. There are other factors too, if you have the gold for weapons and armor. Can you buy AP? If you buy ap, you can buy, say the spb when they have the 3x1 sales, like after this last Sunday's quiz. Remember you must get Elizabeth's buff now.

Anyway, it is easier to kill at lower levels then gets harder and longer to kill at higher levels. So start at level 17 and sp farm, then advance to level 25 and sp farm there. Again, max all skills. At level 25, you can wear the +10 gloves if you still have them. Then go to level 29 and sp farm some. Here you can wear your +10 armor and weapon, and kill away. Save up sp also. You may notice when you die, you lose sp but still can save it. Buy sp restoration skills for when you start to level now.

This is most important too. READ. No one does. Go to the STRATEGY GUIDE and read the sections on sp farming. Also, read the Beginners Guide to leveling.

Now the old toon, if you decide to go this route, you can turn him into a pet trainer now. Just a matter of figuring out what mob and armor you need.

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5fingers
5fingers
5. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 8 2010, 5:55 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2010, 5:55 AM EST
PART II

But this is up to you now. With Elizabeth's buff now, I would think my way is easier and faster now. The xp buff and sp buff are like using scrolls now, that are worth about 2 mill each, so you sitting on the gravy train now. Start over, get new toon to sp farm for ALL SKILLS, whether you use them or not. Once you get the sp farmed, then you can concentrate on leveling now. Again, this is my opinion now. I have redid toons, but had no buffs to help though. Elizabeth's buff is good up to level 65 now. Incidentally, that is that last level to be able to get in the personal dungeon too.

Anyway, go your way now. Remember, in this guide, All I try to do is show you OPTIONS, are maybe another way of looking for an answer. But in the final run, you have to make the decision now. Do you find this valuable?    

Mellificient
6. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 8 2010, 9:38 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2010, 9:38 AM EST
lol, I DID say it was a nerfed toon off the bat, which implies starting over. However, some ppl get attached to a toon for wahtever reason and I was giving a way out that would allow a properly developed toon by the 100s. I didn't say it would be quick or easy :). The 0.005 xp implies it will be sloooooowwwww. Do you find this valuable?    
5fingers
5fingers
7. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 8 2010, 10:45 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2010, 10:45 AM EST
OK. Yea i know what you said, but trying to give people OPTIONS on what to do. Besides, they never listen to me. I have been there and done that, but as you said, they want to stay with the same character. There have been a few, but they pm me, and dont post here that later, their FRIENDS told them the same thing i did, LOL. But no matter. You run with your toon as you want. I just give suggestions on what you might do. But Mellificient, you were magnificent, if not significant. LOL hea i can rhyme.
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exodus360
exodus360
8. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 8 2010, 8:38 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2010, 8:38 PM EST
Ok thanks guys, this helped me out alot :) Do you find this valuable?    

Sheetokk
9. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 10 2010, 9:42 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 10 2010, 9:42 AM EST
Ok im in a bit of a pickel too. My witch is 95 and has only 25 sp to her name. I lost a bit while lvling lol around 1500 which is exactlyly what i need to max her at 102. I can fix this in Trummy and it will take maybe 10 hrs sping on Those big ole wraiths :)My question is is it true that u get a second chance at sp farming at lvl 103? Cos from the valuable knowledge gained through this site I expect to need loadsa sp on my way up the ladder. Can I expect decent sp per kill then? Maybe I should just level to 103 asap and sp 6 months straight out. Or is my toon also nerfed lol. Anyone out there can enlighten me as to the correct path cos I love my witch :) Do you find this valuable?    

Sheetokk
10. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 10 2010, 9:46 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 10 2010, 9:46 AM EST
Plus Im not in any rush to lvl either and use Ap like an aussie drinks beer on a friday night after work :) Do you find this valuable?    
5fingers
5fingers
11. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 12 2010, 11:52 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 12 2010, 11:52 PM EST
Part I

OK, follow the basics.

1. NEVER level if you do not have a Scroll of Resurrection (Rez Scroll) or at least a SP Scroll of Restoration.
REASON: You will find that losing xp is not too bad, but it takes FOREVER to get that sp back. I follow this rule, all the time.
EXCEPTIONS: If you are drop hunting, usually, on a mob your level and you have GOOD armor and take minor hits, then go ahead and fight. BUT, if you are lagging and just once say you lose half your xp, then best to quit. Remember, losing the sp is a major error in fighting. One time, I was at the sorcs and for one reason or the other, I died and had no more Rez Scrolls. I was getting hit too. So i just logged out there. Lost time on pots, but guess what? Did not lose SP.

2. If you have too, SAVE your spb now. Figure out how many of a mob you can kill in one hour. When you get that many spb saved up, then get a pssp and then go sp farm. Like when you reach level 109, you can level and sp farm on the commanders now.

3. Go to LC forum and start exploring how to get free sp. No one reads the top part, but there is a sign that says "Get free sp." Reason is, at level 100, I think I reset my skills. You will find out, I presume, like me that you only use certain skills all the time. Those skills like the dungeon skills are useless but the sp is there to collect. Then if you read my sp farming sections, I tell everyone to max all the crafting skills for later. Then like me, at level 100, I was glad I did. But then I am a packrat. That is get everything you can and hold on to it. When I started I had no nothing that by level 133, I would have no need to certain skills. When I hit 140, I may yet to do another sp reset. Concentration is one skill I do not use, but all that sp looking good too. LOL

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5fingers
5fingers
12. RE: I think i may be in a bit of a pickel
Mar 13 2010, 12:01 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 13 2010, 12:01 AM EST
Part II

This is long as i plan to post some of this in a section like, What to do when you are high level and need to sp farm. Too many pms have i got on this, LOL.

4. Make sure to read AHEAD OF TIME, what your skills are and what they can do.
REASON: A Royal Knight has a skill that costs about 580 sp to get a permanent 200 hp extra damage. At the level to get it I was hitting I think like 5k of damage and 200 extra hp damage is neglible. At level 133, I do 10k of damage on the sorcs. So a sp reset and I will claim this sp. I got the skill ONLY, cuz i had extra sp. This way, I would not lose it.

5. This next is for us, high rollers, that have cash, cuz they do not spend money drinking their beer and snapps on a friday night, LOL You can buy ap and try to do it when they have the bonus ap sales. Then save it. Then when they have the 3x1 spb sales, but what you can. You should got to section on "Item mall and sp" and read it. Also, read on how to open boxes too. You can get PSSP and Blessed Iris that way too. For those, from Level 65 on under, get the buff from Elizabeth (when it is working). She gives you a 200% xp and 200% sp buff, for one thing. The 200% sp buff, is like using a blessed iris, except it is for FREE. Then save your money to buy the sp restoration scrolls or Rez scrolls when you can.

Well this is about it more or less. I will cut and paste this later and re-edit it. Then next time, I can say go to STRATEGY GUIDE and read section on "How to sp farm late" or something like that. LOL Do you find this valuable?